成都既定,以云为翊军将军。《赵云本传》
益州既平,赐诸葛亮、法正、飞及关羽金各五百斤,银千斤,钱五千万,锦千匹,其余颁赐各有差。。。《张飞传》
Upon Chengdu being pacified, Yun was made The General of the Soaring Army. (Original Account of Zhao Yun)
Upon
Yi Province being pacified, Zhuge Liang, Fa Zheng, Fei and Guan Yu were
rewarded with five hundred catties of gold, a thousand catties of
silver, fifty million qian and brocade of a thousand bolts while rewards for the rest varied. (Account of Zhang Fei)
BUT WAIT!!!!
初攻刘璋,备与士众约:“若事定,府库百物,孤无预焉。”及拔成都,士众皆舍干戈,赴诸藏竞取宝物。
《刘巴传》
《刘巴传》
蜀中殷盛丰乐,先主置酒大飨士卒,取蜀城中金银分赐将士。。。
《先主传》
《先主传》
During
the first days of attacking Liu Zhang, Bei made a promise with his men:
"If we manage to achieve our goal, whatever there is in the treasuries
you're free to take." Upon taking Chengdu, the soldiers threw down their
arms and hurried to plunder whatever they could manage.
(Account of Liu Ba)
(Account of Liu Ba)
As
revelry prevailed in the lands of Shu and the First Lord prepared
massive banquets for his men, gold and silver were taken to reward the
soldiers...
(Account of the First Lord)
(Account of the First Lord)
Note the bolded text in Zhang Fei's account. Yes, I, Liu Bei, don't have enough money to properly reward this poor bloke. Me=Pok-kai T_T
先主争汉中,急书发兵,军师将军诸葛亮以问洪,洪曰:“汉中则益州咽喉,存亡之机会,若无汉中则无蜀矣,此家门之祸也。方今之事,男子当战,女子当运,发兵何疑?” 《杨洪传》
孙权袭荆州,先主大怒,欲讨权。云谏曰:“国贼是曹操,非孙权也,且先灭魏,则吴自服。操身虽毙, 子丕篡盗,当因众心,早图关中,居河、渭上流以讨凶逆,关东义士必裹粮策马以迎王师。不应置魏,先与吴战;兵势一交,不得卒解。”《云别传》
When Sun Quan took Jing Province by treachery, Liu Bei was angered and decided to declare war.. Yun advised: "The traitor is Cao Cao, not Sun Quan. If we can destroy Wei, Wu will submit accordingly. Although Cao Cao had passed away, his son Cao Pi has incurred anger by usurping the Han throne. We can use their sentiments to our advantage by occupying the key tributaries in order to set our sights at Guanzhong. The loyalists from Guandong will surely welcome us with supplies. Yet if we're to fight Wu first, we won't be able to pull ourselves from the future conflict. (Tales of Zhao Yun)
Verdict: Failure, Thy name is predestination... And its not Zhao Yun's fault.T_T
Second bullet sent: On the second Tales of Zhao Yun controversy, people tend to say Zhuge Liang was the go-to boss on all things policy. I don't need to say anything here since the above accounts written by Chen Shou has debunked the crap for me. Ironically enough, Zhuge Liang DID attain such a status. But that's after Liu Bei died.
But then again I can give him the right to talk big...
。。。拜羽董督荆州事。
《关羽传》
《关羽传》
。。。以飞领巴西太守。
《张飞传》
。。。以正为蜀郡太守、扬武将军。
《法正传》
。。。以亮为军师将军,署左将军府事。
《诸葛亮传》
...Yu was gifted the duty of supervising the affairs of Jing Province.
(Account of Guan Yu)
[i.e total control over Liu's Bei's five counties at Jing]
(Account of Guan Yu)
[i.e total control over Liu's Bei's five counties at Jing]
...Fei undertook the post of Grand Administrator of Baxi.
(Account of Zhang Fei)
[i.e. highest ranked local authority of a county]
(Account of Zhang Fei)
[i.e. highest ranked local authority of a county]
...gave Zheng with the Grand Administrator of the Shu county and The General Who Spread the Might.
(Account of Fa Zheng)
[i.e. All hell broke loose because this vindictive S.O.B ended up being the highest local authority in the capital. Plus a General's title as well.]
(Account of Fa Zheng)
[i.e. All hell broke loose because this vindictive S.O.B ended up being the highest local authority in the capital. Plus a General's title as well.]
...gave
Liang with the rank of The General of Military Affairs, tasked with
administrative affairs of the government.
(Account of Zhuge Liang)
[i.e boss of all things operations where the government is concerned.]
Conclusion: Zhao Yun knew how to troll after all... (Evidence shown below)
益州既定,时议欲以成都中屋舍及城外园地桑田分赐诸将。云驳之曰:“霍去病以匈奴未灭,无用家为,令国贼非但匈奴,未可求安也。须天下都定,各反桑梓,归耕本土,乃其宜耳。益州人民,初罹兵革,田宅皆可归还,今安居复业,然后可役调,得其欢心。”先主即从之。
《云别传》
Shortly upon the land being pacified, there were suggestions to grant the houses and rural farmlands in Chengdu
to the generals. Yun objected to such a proposal stating: "Huo Qubing
once said that a home is pointless should Xiongnu continue to run
rampant, what's more the traitor now isn't merely Xiongnu itself? In
order to pacify the kingdom, its best to return back the lands and
houses to the people. Having just endured the shock of war, we can gain
their support by such means upon which they will be willing to fight for
us. " The First Lord heeded the advice.
(Tales of Zhao Yun)
(Tales of Zhao Yun)
Result:
先主争汉中,急书发兵,军师将军诸葛亮以问洪,洪曰:“汉中则益州咽喉,存亡之机会,若无汉中则无蜀矣,此家门之祸也。方今之事,男子当战,女子当运,发兵何疑?” 《杨洪传》
When
the First Lord was fighting at Hanzhong, Zhuge Liang consulted Hong
upon receiving the letter of plea for reinforcements. Hong stated:
"Hanzhong is the throat of Yi, the key to survival. Without Hanzhong,
Shu cannot exist, hence this is a matter of woe. In such a face of dire
straits, then men must take up arms and the women as manual labour. What
is there to hesitate about?" (Account of Yang Hong)
As
it turned out, the advice became a vital key to Liu Bei's
success. And above all, the advice Zhao Yun had given was pretty much a
combo of Petr Cech's penalty save plus Drogba's winner in that
we-know-what. In fact given what had been going through as per stated in
Account of Liu Ba and the corresponding evidence in Account of the
First Lord, the cause of Zhao Yun's advice was pretty much a no-brainer.
To him that is.
Now
just a little bit of insight on the society at that time. Simply put,
no one would give cast his holy vote on having a military man giving
advice on all things internal policies. But then again, Zhao Yun wasn't a
Stone Cold Steve Austin. Which is why his advice actually went a long
way in giving the opposing Wei forces that Stone Cold Stunner rather
than the civilians themselves turning into a massive brood of
rattlesnakes.
Author's Note: This is how you utilize populist policies. Period. :P
Author's Note: This is how you utilize populist policies. Period. :P
But I can give him the right to talk big... (Ver. Fail)
孙权袭荆州,先主大怒,欲讨权。云谏曰:“国贼是曹操,非孙权也,且先灭魏,则吴自服。操身虽毙, 子丕篡盗,当因众心,早图关中,居河、渭上流以讨凶逆,关东义士必裹粮策马以迎王师。不应置魏,先与吴战;兵势一交,不得卒解。”《云别传》
When Sun Quan took Jing Province by treachery, Liu Bei was angered and decided to declare war.. Yun advised: "The traitor is Cao Cao, not Sun Quan. If we can destroy Wei, Wu will submit accordingly. Although Cao Cao had passed away, his son Cao Pi has incurred anger by usurping the Han throne. We can use their sentiments to our advantage by occupying the key tributaries in order to set our sights at Guanzhong. The loyalists from Guandong will surely welcome us with supplies. Yet if we're to fight Wu first, we won't be able to pull ourselves from the future conflict. (Tales of Zhao Yun)
先主既即尊号,将东征孙权以复关羽之耻,群臣多谏,一不从。《法正传》
Upon
assuming his status as the Emperor, the First Lord was determined to
wage war in order to avenge the loss of Guan Yu. The objections of his
vassals fell on deaf ears. (Account of Fa Zheng)
Verdict: Failure, Thy name is predestination... And its not Zhao Yun's fault.T_T
Second bullet sent: On the second Tales of Zhao Yun controversy, people tend to say Zhuge Liang was the go-to boss on all things policy. I don't need to say anything here since the above accounts written by Chen Shou has debunked the crap for me. Ironically enough, Zhuge Liang DID attain such a status. But that's after Liu Bei died.
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